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Calculating the Price

Updated: Sep 24


I tend to shy away from discussion of the price of ancient coins - while the price is relevant, even primary, in defining which coins I can afford, it isn't the most important factor in my enjoyment of the hobby. Prices are all over the map, from $1 (or even worthless) to nearly priceless. Fortunately there are coins for almost any price point. Our ancient ancestors appear to have recognized the future need to support collectors at multiple price points, and introduced mis-strikes, weak-strikes, bankers marks, graffiti, varying degrees of rarity, varied aging conditions for coins to develop patina - all of which leaves many options to choose from.


Should this coin be worth more or less than average for coins of this type? Here's an example where being a bit off-center and a die issue with cupid's head not fully defined, doesn't detract much on this particular coin. All elements visible, good style, good flan, nice dark toning, a full 4g flan with good silver, provenance from a very reputable dealer, a coin with interesting historical relevance, an unhappy, pointy-toothed, long nosed dolphin - overall many other positive qualities that outweigh the centering.

L. Lucretius Trio, AR Denarius, Rome, 76-72 BC

Obv: Laureate bust of Neptune right; trident over shoulder; numeral (L == 50) above

Rev: Infant Genius riding dolphin right; L•LVCRETI TRIO in two lines in exergue

Size: 4.00g, 18mm

Ref: Crawford 390/2; Sydenham 784.


This coin dates somewhere between 76 and 72 BC in competing estimates from Crawford (76 BC), Hersch-Walker (74 BC), Harlan (72 BC). This was the time of the third and final war with Mithridates VI of Pontus, the period post-Social War and post the civil wars of Sulla and Cinna.


An Expanding Republic


The republic was expanding. Gaius Scribonianus Curio, consul in 76 BC, afterward his consulship as proconsul in Macedonia conquered the Dardani and Moesians.


Curio had some interesting tactics for dealing with unrest in his legions:

"When the consul Gaius Curio was campaigning near Dyrrhachium in the war against the Dardani, and one of the five legions, having mutinied, had refused service and declared it would not follow his rash leadership on a difficult and dangerous enterprise, he led out four legions in arms and ordered them to take their stand in the ranks with weapons drawn, as if in battle. Then he commanded the mutinous legion to advance without arms, and forced its members to strip for work and cut straw under the eyes of armed guards. The following day, in like manner, he compelled them to strip and dig ditches, and by no entreaties of the legion could he be induced to renounce his purpose of withdrawing its standards, abolishing its name, and distributing its members to fill out other legions."

- Sextus Julius Frontinus, Stratagems, VI.1.43


Ultimately, he was successful and awarded a triumph in Rome

"The Illyrians, who had borne aid to the Macedonians, we conquered on that same occasion through Lucius Ancius, a praetor, and we received them, with King Gentius, in capitulation. Curio, a proconsul, subjugated the Dardanians and Moesiacians and was the first commander of Romans to penetrate all the way to the Danube."

- Festus, Breviarium, 370 AD, 7.5


Gens Lucretia


The Lucretia gens was one of the most ancient in Rome. The second wife of Numa Pompilius, second King of Rome, was named Lucretia. Another Lucretia of the same name and family was raped at the hands of Sextus Tarquinius which led to her suicide, and caused the monarchy to be overthrown and the Republic established. Her father, Spurius Lucretius Triciptinus, as one of the first consuls in 509 BC. The other consul was Lucius Junius Brutus, ancestor of the EID MAR Brutus. This coin may refer to an ancestor of the moneyer, C. Lucretius Gallus, who in 181 BC was duumvir navalis, one of two men responsible for managing the Roman fleet, and commanded the fleet against Perseus of Macedon.


Price-Quality Trade-offs


Ancient coins are always a trade-off of factors: what is available, patina, condition, weight, strike, metal, centering, color, price...would I purchase this one for $1500 or this one for $3000 (probably not). I am pleased to own this imperfect coin (27.7g, 24mm) at the right price. Although it has a blotchy mahogany patina, exposing some bare metal, the surface quite nice in hand, a well preserved portrait, the aegis - a rarer feature - more visible than in the photo:

Trajan, 98-117 AD, Æ Sestertius,,struck circa 106-111 AD.

Obv: Laureate head right, drapery on left shoulder with aegis

Rev: Ceres, holding wheat ears and torch, standing over modius

Ref: RIC II 480 var. (no aegis)


A side view is helpful to appreciate the scale of this coin, which stands up on it's side quite easily.


Top 10 Pricing Factors


Here is my view on top 10 factors contributing to overall price (with an attempt to put it in priority order from biggest impact to least):

  • Popularity: one of the larger factors, the more well known a coin the higher the price. Demand a bigger factor in ancient pricing than supply in my view. Contrast with Rarity and Special Interest at end of list.Another face of popularity: who shows up and the auction and how much they want one. Two motivated bidders can change dramatically to price of a give coin - after all each coin ancient coin is in some way unique.

  • Size: the bigger the coin the bigger the price - while there are certainly exceptions - a tetradrachm or a sestertius or the largest Ptolemaic bronze will come with higher prices. Let's not even talk about dodecadrachms. The larger coins are more impressive in hand, have large canvasses for the engravers work...

  • Condition: from very worn with little of the original design remaining (good) to perfectly preserved from day of strike (Fleur de Coin or FDC). Various types of damage can affect an ancient coins value, for me, modern damage is the category that has the greatest negative impact on a coin.

  • minting process e.g. flan crack, over-strike, double-strike, die-clash, misshaped flan, clogged die, brockage

  • ancient use e.g. bankers marks, graffiti, scratches, countermarks

  • aging e.g. pitting, encrustations, crystallization, corrosion

  • modern damage e.g. harsh chemical or mechanical cleaning, scratches, tooling

  • Provenance: Who owned the coin, and how far back is the documentation on the coin? Coins from famous collections, with long histories, and documented in publications and reference books, generate much higher prices.

  • Artistry: die makers varied in their skill and range from crude engraving to artistic masterpieces, well designed and more complex scenes bring higher prices.

  • Strike: many possibilities with hand-struck ancients for off-center or weakly struck to perfectly centered and boldly struck.

  • Patina: the aged surface of the metal, more even surfaces with pleasing color are generally more desirable.

  • Metal: ancient coins were struck with a wide range of metal sources and debased to varying degrees, higher grade metal and a full weight flan generally adds to the price.

  • Historic or Numismatic Significance: perhaps hard to separate from popularity in it's impact on price, coins from pivotal historical moment or which are the critical evidence in our understanding history or numismatics, have higher prices than those form quiet and unknown periods or which do not contribute to understanding the coins, where, why and how they were made and used in ancient time.

  • Rarity: one of the lesser factors in price, how many actually minted or surviving? many vary rare provincial coins (with < 10 known) are also very affordable. Far outweighed by popularity (or demand in supply/demand terms).


Special Interest: it is worth noting that any of the "negative" factors in a coins condition can become highly prized specialty collector item e.g. and interesting countermark, or minting error.


Calculating the Price


Going back to the question of "how to calculate price" - it takes some experience with a given coin type to get a feel for the reproducible price range based on the many contributing factors. Without knowing any given coin - just looking at it - you can easily be multiple orders of magnitude off (+ or -) in guessing price. What looks like a very poorly preserved coin for some types, could be an outstanding example and the other way around. Browsing past sales of the coin type you are interested in and looking at market averages is the best tool to quickly estimate "what am I willing to pay". The photo of the coin is not enough to gauge price, and it is worth paying attention to other available information like weight, size, provenance, et.c.

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